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We get the latest from the scene of a shooting at the Navy Yard in Southeast D.C. The shooting has drawn hundreds of law enforcement officers and closed the 11th Street bridge. WAMU reporter Patrick Madden joins Kojo to update the situation.
- Patrick Madden Reporter, WAMU 88.5 News
MR. KOJO NNAMDIFrom WAMU 88.5 at American University in Washington, welcome to "The Kojo Nnamdi Show," connecting your neighborhood with the world.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIIn just a few minutes, we'll learn about the fight to resettle Iraqis and Afghans who work with the United States and are now seeking refuge outside of their home countries. But first, the latest news from the scene of this morning's shootings at the Navy Yard in Washington. Police confirm this hour that multiple people are dead, including a shooter. D.C. Police chief Cathy Lanier said, in a press conference during the past hour, that two potential shooters are still at large.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIAuthorities have provided physical descriptions. Joining us now with the latest from the site is WAMU 88.5 reporter Patrick Madden. Patrick, thank you for joining us.
MR. PATRICK MADDENThank you, Kojo.
NNAMDIAfter hearing from Chief Lanier and Mayor Vincent Gray firsthand last hour, what do we now know for sure about what happened at the Navy Yard this morning?
MADDENWell, what we do know, for sure, is that there was a mass shooting at this military installation. It's unclear the number of casualties right now. There have been reports saying as many as six or seven people have been killed. But, again, all of this has not been confirmed by police. We do know that several people have been killed, as well as the shooter. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said the shooter has confirmed -- the shooter was killed this morning.
MADDENBut, she says there are potentially two other gunmen out there, two other people that they are looking for. One is described as a white male in a khaki tan military uniform with a beret. The other described as a black male, who is around 50 years old, wearing an olive style military uniform. They both are described as being armed, and that's why this is very much an active investigation right now. The scene is on lockdown. There are really not -- there's not much to see down here except a lot of police cars and a lot of media.
MADDENAnd we're not even close to the Navy Yard building.
NNAMDIAnd police are asking anyone with information on those two people that Patrick described to call 202-727-9099. That's 202-727-9099. We've heard that the 11th Street Bridge is still closed and know that some area schools were on lockdown. How is the shooting affecting the surrounding area? I get the sense that where you are right now, there's not a whole, a great deal happening because the area has been cleared.
MADDENThat's right. There isn't -- as far as you look, there are police vehicles blocking many of the major intersections around here. There was a lot of activity this morning, even as late as say 12:00, when there was a big rush of police cars actually heading away from the scene. But, since then, it has been very quiet around here. Police have said they will hold another briefing, possibly around 2pm or 3pm to give us an update on this situation, but, you know, I've spoke to sources in there who say this is, you know, still, there's still a lot that they don't know and that they're trying to figure out right now.
NNAMDIBecause one can speculate that if they are searching for two individuals, those two individuals may be concealed in another part of the campus. They may be still armed, and so, I guess, they don't want to take any chances at all.
MADDENExactly. And that's why there is such a heavy presence of, not just police vehicles, but you see these sort of SWAT Team vehicles. There have been, looks like two helicopters, that have been circling this area the entire time. So, everyone that I know -- a lot of people have been told to shelter in place. I know there's been lockdowns elsewhere. And where -- we have been pushed back pretty far from the scene. We're now at Third and M Street, which is, I don't know, maybe eight blocks, more than that, from the actual Navy Yard building.
NNAMDIAnd I guess the lockdown will continue as long as there are other potential shooters or suspects at large. The US Navy has tweeted earlier that family members looking for information about their loved ones can call 202-433-6151, or 202-433-9713. A reunification center has been established at National Stadium parking lot B. That is at South Capitol and K Street SE. And, Patrick Madden, I assume that if there are other developments, we will be hearing from you during the course of this hour.
MADDENYes. As soon as I know more information, I will be back to help out.
NNAMDIThat's WAMU 88.5 reporter Patrick Madden. Patrick, thank you so much for joining us.
MADDENThank you. Thanks Kojo.
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