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Thanksgiving is coming and football is in the headlines. Wilson High School’s team was disqualified from D.C.’s Turkey Bowl after a player’s Maryland residency came to light. Meanwhile, the University of Maryland is making moves to the Big Ten. In political news, Virginia Sen. Mark Warner decides against a second run for governor. And PolitiFact is offering a guide to political rumors to help you disarm your relatives on Turkey Day. We talk about those stories and what’s on your mind.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIIt's now your turn to weigh in on any issue in the news or previous topics on this broadcast by calling 800-433-8850. You may want to talk specifically about what's going on with the Maryland Big Ten, Wilson High School or the fact that former Gov., now Sen. Mark Warner has decided he does not want his old job back -- he's not going to run for governor of Virginia in 2013, he will stay in the U.S. Senate -- or whether or not the David Petraeus scandal in your view is over.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIBut getting back to Maryland, this past Friday, it seemed like everything was calm at the University of Maryland, and then, boom, over the weekend, a decision made by the trustees largely on the QT, with only one dissenter. Legendary former Maryland Terrapin basketball player Tom McMillen was the one vote against it.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIThe ACC, of which Maryland is one of the founders, the Athletic Course -- Court -- Athletic Coast -- Atlantic Coast Conference, was apparently unaware that this was going down, that Maryland, being one of the colleges that started the Atlantic Coast Conference some 60 years ago, has decided to remove itself and to align itself with the Big Ten.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIIt seems that this decision has as much to do with money as anything else in the Atlantic Coast Conference. Maryland gets about $17 million a year in the Big Ten because of television revenues. It'll be getting over $24 million a year. But Maryland still has to pay the ACC $50 million for pulling out of the ACC. That's a decision that Maryland will apparently challenge. What do you see as the motivation here?
MR. KOJO NNAMDIDo you think it's all about money? There are those who have made the argument that it's also about academics. You can call us at 800-433-8850. You may remember that Maryland had to cut several sports, including tennis. Will this decision, in your view, help to bring it back, and, most of all, is it over? There are people who are protesting the way that this decision was made.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIWe all remember what happened because of the way the president of the University of Virginia was removed in what was another stealth move apparently by the board of trustees, and that decision was ultimately reversed because of an uproar from students, faculty in that community. What do you think will happen in Maryland with this Big Ten move? 800-433-8850. Or you might want to talk about whether or not the scandal involving former head of the CIA, Gen. David Petraeus, in your view, is over.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIWe talked with Tom Ricks earlier this week, who talked about the fact that in the days of yore, generals used to be moved because of making major strategic errors in war situations. But today, we fight different wars and generals are being removed for things like sex scandals, which never used to happen before. What is your thinking about that? 800-433-8850. You can also call to weigh in on anything else on your mind that's been in the news recently.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIWilson High School thought it was going to the Turkey Bowl, the big event that takes place here in Washington, D.C., in the high school final football game of the year. Wilson beat Anacostia to get there. But it was discovered that Wilson High School had a player who was actually living in Maryland, and so it had to forfeit a couple of games and will no longer be able to play in the Turkey Bowl. Wilson students and the Wilson community in general was quite upset about it, and there were protests over the issue.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIAnd it would appear that the protest have resulted in knot. What is somehow bizarre is how Wilson High found out that this student was living in Maryland. He was arrested for a series of armed robberies in Maryland involving armed robberies of students at the University of Maryland, and that's when his address was discovered and -- because he was living in Maryland. There are some, I guess, about 200 students who live in Maryland who go to public schools in the District of Columbia.
MR. KOJO NNAMDIThey do have to pay an out-of-state fee to do that. I guess, this student was not paying it. He certainly was not permitted to play on the Wilson team because of living in Maryland. 800-433-8850 if you think that despite that fact Wilson should have been allowed to compete in the Turkey Bowl. It has not been in the game since 1991, more than 20 years. And obviously, the students were looking forward to it. But it's your turn. Let's go to the phones and talk with Sarah in Huntington, Md. Sarah, you're on the air. Go ahead, please.
SARAHHi, Kojo. Thank you for taking my call. This is so exciting for me. My comment is that I don't think the -- Maryland's move to the Big Ten has taken into account the needs of student athletes. And I think the decision to move over is based almost entirely on money and not on the traditions that Maryland has made or the futures of some of the student athletes. I am hopeful that some of the old teams, like swimming and diving and gymnastics, will be reinstated through this. But I am -- I'm not sure if that's going to actually happen.
NNAMDIThere is no surety there. And for those athletes who went to the University of Maryland because it is in the ACC, there's going to be a lot of disappointment there. As I said earlier, I'll be interested to see whether or not this is over. Do you think it's over, Sarah?
NNAMDIDo you think it's over, the deal is done and it won't be retracted?
SARAHI think, I mean, I think this is the way it's going to be now. I'm very -- unfortunately, I do not support this move. I'm very much a traditionalist in thinking that Maryland should stay in the ACC, but I don't think there's a way we can reverse this.
NNAMDIOK. Sarah, thank you very much for your call. What do you think? It's your turn. There is some news here. The Associated Press is reporting that Egypt has announced a ceasefire agreement between Israel and Hamas, effective Wednesday evening, that's this evening. The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirms a ceasefire deal, so it looks as if the deal has certainly been reached. I guess what we have to look at now is whether or not the deal will hold and whether there will, in fact, be a ceasefire.
NNAMDIBut that's the latest news. You may want to comment on that issue also, 800-433-8850. Here now is Ruth in Upper Marlboro, Md. Ruth, you're on the air. Go ahead, please.
RUTHHi, Kojo. And thank so much for taking my call. I just wanted to know if you could comment on why you believe that Susan Rice is being objected to so vehemently by members of Congress, Republican members of Congress.
NNAMDIWell, I can give you I can give you the reason that is given. The reason that is given is because when our U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice went on the networks to talk about what occurred in Benghazi, she described it as a spontaneous protest that led to the killing of an American -- a U.S. ambassador and three contractors who were there. It was discovered, of course, that that was not the case.
NNAMDIHowever, it has been established that those were the talking points that she was given by the CIA, which did apparently not want terrorists to realize that they were, so to speak, on to them. I have found that the stridency, if you will, of opposition to Susan Rice is stronger than one would have expected. I have also found that the characterizations of Susan Rice are generally characterizations that if they were found to be in a male are generally considered to be attributes.
NNAMDIBut invariably in a female, they seem to be a turn off for great many people. As to whether or not President Obama will nominate her to be the next secretary of State, he says he hasn't made up his mind as yet. What is your own view, Ruth? It's your turn.
RUTHWell, I believe that the intelligence community came out and said that her talking points reflected what she said on the television shows that she was on. Now, how could they possibly expect her to say anything other than what was in her talking points? And why are they holding her responsible for something that she did not have written in front of her?
NNAMDIWell, you know, we exist in what's generally characterized as a significant partisan divide, and it would appear that Susan Rice is one way that the opposition in the U.S. Senate can get at the Obama administration. We've just come to the end of a very testy election and a very long and testy election period. And what we might be seeing is a couple of the leftovers, if you will, from that. But, Ruth, thank you very much for your call. We've got to move on. Here is Eric in Annapolis, Md. Eric, you're on the air. Go ahead, please.
ERICHey, Kojo. Thanks for taking my call.
NNAMDIYou're welcome, Eric.
ERICWith the civilian leadership and military leadership, we've got UCMJ with the military that Gen. Petraeus would be held accountable for. But I'm wondering what's your point of view is on why Gen. Petraeus is being held in light of his generalship as a military leadership, but in actuality, he was leading a civilian institution. And what, if any importance that is, with, you know, the civilian leadership that, you know, your previous visitors on your show have been almost all week, from McArthur to Eisenhower, you know, why are we still considering him a military leader when...
NNAMDIBecause once a military leader, always a military leader. And in the same way that Eisenhower became the civilian president of the United States, he, too, is included in the book that Tom Ricks wrote about the generals. And while most of the book is about the generals in war and strategic situations, the fact that David Petraeus was and is a general who was heading the CIA, suggest that, in the view of Ricks -- Tom Ricks and others, that his removal should have something to do with a major strategic error made on his part that would put the country or the members of the intelligence service at risk.
NNAMDIAnd as far as we can tell, that has not been the case in this situation. And that's why they feel that he probably should not have resigned his position. But I'm afraid that's all the time we have, Eric, and that's the only explanation I can give. Thank you very much for your call. Thanks to all of those of you who called when it's Your Turn. And thank you all for listening. I'm Kojo Nnamdi.
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